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I am comparing the Pure Latex Bliss mattress at Ergo in Berkeley and the Nest Organics line at Nest Bedding in Berkeley. Can anyone tell me the difference between the types of latex they use? The Pure Latex Bliss is more expensive than the latex beds at Nest Bedding.

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The difference between Nest Organics and Pure Latex Bliss is difficult to compare because Nest Bedding has a few models and PLB has many. Despite the post by Peter, Nest Organics mattresses are far superior to a Simmons Beautyrest. First, they are made with certified organic cotton, certified organic wool and Oeko Tek certified latex. The latex is socked and zoned. The coils are zoned as well. Beautyrest uses poly fabrics, regular non-zoned coils and inferior latex.

As for Pure Latex Bliss, they are generally more expensive and usually don't have organic cotton or organic wool, and usually use something other than an organic material to make them fire retardant.

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I can give you a bit of information about the Pure Latex Bliss product, but they have over 20 models so I'd need to know the model in which you have an interest. As for the Nest Organics bed, don't the salespeople there have the specifications for you? Since it's their line at their own store I'd hope that they would provide that up front.

Reply with the PLB model and at least I can provide some information on that for you.

answered Oct 09 '13
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There are two ways to process latex rubber besides all natural and synthetic there is Dunlop and Talalay processes. Dunlop and Talalay can both be made from the all natural form and synthetic form. They both have their place in the construction of mattresses. 95% of all Talaly latex is synthetic blended latex.

Making latex mattresses is a art form in of it's self. This is why I recommend all natural latex made with the Dunlop process and if I am going to use Talalay, I use it sparingly in the pillow top. From my experience customers bottom out on Talalay when you don't use enough Dunlop for support.

answered Oct 09 '13
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Joyce, your comments about synthetic latex are not necessarily accurate. Mountain Top makes a 100 percent synthetic latex which just received Level 1 Oeko Tex certification. As for using this forum as a way to post your store information and phone number is a bit spammy, wouldn't you agree?

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There are many good brands of 100% all natural latex rubber. Mountain Top also makes 100% all natural latex rubber (see attached letter). Level 1 Oeko Tex certification is the most stringent criteria, as it is a product classification for babies and infants because their skin is most sensitive. "Safety first" is the credo for the little ones.

If the attached letter does not come through, please contact me and I will be happy to send it to you in an email (my phone number is listed on my profile).

(Oct 10 '13) Joyce Walker... ♦ Joyce Walker Robertson's gravatar image

Thanks Joyce, but Nest Bedding is one of your competitors just a mile or so down the street. We are the only 5 star mattress store in the East Bay on Yelp. Yes, the customer comes first. They asked for a comparison, not a place to buy a mattress in Berkeley. As a forum, we professionals should resist the temptation to self-promote and just be a resource. That keeps it a valuable forum. Stop by sometime and we will show you the benefits of Nest Bedding Mattresses. We don't carry Savvy Rest.

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And their 100% synthetic latex is also level 1 Oeko Tex certified safe for the little ones too. Above you made it sound like all synthetic latex has toxic chemical off-gassing, which is not factual.

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Nest Bedding is not a competitor down the road as Mountain Air Organic Beds does not have a presence in California. We are located in Fayetteville, Arkansas.

If I was the consumer that is the one I would buy the Sterling organic mattress from Nest Bedding if you are comparing to PBL. The construction is good, latex from LatexCo if they choose 100% all natural is customizable with a zipper casing and uses organic cotton and wool in the casing. I love wool, sleeps cool in the summer, cozy in the winter and helps regulate body temperature all night long. It is dust mite resistant, not enough cotton or wool to create body impressions.

Good Luck!

(Oct 10 '13) Joyce Walker... ♦ Joyce Walker Robertson's gravatar image

Joe here is the research I have found on synthetic latex. Styrene Butadiene Rubber (SBR) for short. Styrene is a heavily regulated chemical.

  1. Styrene Chronic Effects Chronic exposure to styrene can lead to central nervous system defects including (#EPA Air Toxics):
  2. headache
  3. fatigue
  4. weakness
  5. depression
  6. problems with reaction time, memory, visuomotor speed and accuracy, and intellectual function
  7. hearing loss
  8. peripheral neuropathy
  9. minor effects on some kidney enzyme functions and on the blood
  10. According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry breathing styrene is most likely to affect the nervous system.
  11. Butadiene according to the EPA is a colorless gas with a mild gasoline like odor. EPA has classified 1,3-butadiene as carcinogenic to humans by inhalation.
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Yes, that is true, but that is not all synthetic latex. That is like saying all memory foam is the same, and I am sure you are not saying that. As I stated now several times...the Synthetic Latex from Mountain Top carries Oeko Tex Certification to Level 1 and does not have to carry a Prop 65 sticker in California. Too many people in this industry put out incorrect information or incomplete and biased information. Consumers come to this website for answers, not biased opinion. I would say what you posted is true of SOME synthetic latex, but not all.

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Yes, we are a competitor down the street from the store you recommend to the customer who was not looking for a store in Berkeley but is one of my customers. I am sure you would not like if someone came on this forum thinking about buying your mattress and then I suggested they buy from me instead. Lets try to be a non-biased, well-educated resource. That way we keep our industry reputable.

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Thank you for making that clear. I will investigate it further and report back my findings.

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To answer your question, The Nest Organic...even the most expensive, is an individually pocketed coil mattress with a few inches of Dunlop latex on top. Pure LatexBLISS is 100% Talalay Latex. The Talalay process is more costly than the Dunlop process, which includes an extra "freezing" step that suspends the particles, making for a more supple finished product. The difference in price is due to the fact that it is a much better and much more expensively made product. Frankly, there is no comparison. If you prefer the Nest, you can buy a Simmons Beautyrest (individually pocketed coil) mattress, add the better Talalay latex to that and spend less to boot.

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Frankly, you are wrong. You obviously know little about Nest Bedding mattresses. They are constructed of organic wool, organic cotton, zoned pure latex which is Oeko Tex Certified and built on a base of Leggett and Platt zoned pocketed coils. Which Simmons model uses these elements? None. PLB has organic cotton covers and organic wool for the fire barrier? No.

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Adding cotton and wool provides a breeding ground for dust mites. I went to the website and saw that the mattresses asked about were individually pocketed coil systems topped with latex. Cotton and will compress easily, leaving permanent body impressions. It's just a mattress with its own set of problems.

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Peter, as a 15 year veteran of the industry, mattress company owner and designer, I know a thing or two about mattresses. I would highly recommend reading up on dust mites. Dust mites are an arachnid, and they require food and water. Cotton and wool are NOT a breeding ground for dust mites, its actually the the opposite. Wool and cotton are breathable, drying out quickly, more quickly than synthetic fabrics, thus not providing food and water they need. Its a common misunderstanding. Also the cotton is the cover, not the fill. Its on the website. Wool is tensile strength stronger than steel.

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