Are stacked pocketed coils better?

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One store is selling the Simmons Beautyrest Recharge mid-level firmness bed with stacked pocketed coils, thus doubling the coil count. The same bed is at another store but with a single tall pocketed coil. Is one style better than the other?

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This question is related to Simmons Beautyrest Recharge World Class.

asked Jul 12 '13

Anonymous796

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I am well aware of the history of coil-on-coil structures, and have quite a few years experience selling them. Simmons did have coil-on-coil in their WorldClass Exceptionale models (remember the "Summit tops"?), and Stearns and Foster had their "Pillow Coil" a couple of years back . It was the cushioning layers that tended to fail on these beds, not the coil system, in my experience. My only concern with structures like this is their compatability with adjustable base systems. Simmons says they are OK, but I have some concerns there, as does my local independent mattress inspector...

Generally speaking, I am not a huge fan of any innerspring unit. I believe that newer technologies trump springs in virtually every measurable way (strength, flexibility, quality of pressure relief, motion seperation, etc).

In all seriousness, if you do have real information about the history of coil-on-coil structures failing, I would love to be better informed...

-Scott

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answered Jul 12 '13

Scott G from New Orleans, LA

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In a dual layered encased coil design, the top layer usually provides comfort and the botton layer provides support. These designs provide long lasting and highly comfortable sleep. These designs also provide more "breathable" and less-hot and less-sweaty sleep.

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answered Jul 12 '13

Barry Cik ♦

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The coils have nothing to do with heat retention. This design has been used and failed numerous times over the years. The single coil is stronger than two half coils....a well established fact.

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answered Jul 12 '13

Peter Cancelli ♦

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Two layers of encased coils are usually far stronger and durable and comfortable than one layer, assuming that we're comparing the same dimensions, gauge, etc.

(Jul 12 '13) Barry Cik ♦

Peter, I have to disagree with you... Although the effect is minimal, if you replace cushioning layers (a portion of the pillowtop) with micro-coils, it will result in a more open and breathable structure. Delivers a small benefit with regards to temperature, but a benefit nonetheless. Keep in mind that temperature management is a modular concept (every little bit helps!). Micro-coils are designed to provide the same benefit as two-stage single-coil designs. Side sleepers will gain the most benefit from this as the support system gains flexibility with this design, so the mattress can follow the sleeper's unique shape and fill spaces more effectively. Another benefit is that the coils should be more durable than the cushioning they have replaced.

-Scott

(Jul 12 '13) Scott G

Disagree all you like. History with this unit says you're wrong. It's not a matter of opinion. Know you mattress history before recommending inferior products.

(Jul 12 '13) Peter Cancelli ♦

I would have to agree that the dual coil system is more breathable, conforming and durable. We have been handcrafting our finest model called "The Yarmouth" for over 8 years which has over 2,000 coils in queen. Microcoil paired with Talalay Latex foam giving it a very flexible and lightweight feel that customers rave about. We've had clients from all around the world who have slept on our mattresses at Bed and Breakfasts in the Berkshire's order them. Bottom line: Steel is stronger than foam... Now THATS a fact. I'm a little skeptical of your source that has proven this design a failure.

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answered Jul 13 '13

Nick Noblit ♦

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Since the double-stacked coils tend to be a lighter gauge of steel, I would question the longevity of this type of product; especially if you're spending thousands on a mattress.

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answered Aug 26 '13

Karen Woods ♦

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Karen is absolutely correct about the gauge of the steel. Lower the gauge, the longer the steel will hold up. The question that was asked was are pocket coils "better". Better meaning longer lasting? Or better meaning more comfort over the duration of the mattresses life? Our company has never received a complaint regarding a defect or lack of comfort with our Yarmouth model (dual-coil & latex foam). This mattress will not last as long as our 12 1/2 gauge coil mattress. However, our customers prefer the Yarmouth. Just my two cents :)

(Aug 26 '13) Nick Noblit ♦